MSI X570-A PRO Motherboard review

MSI X570-A PRO Motherboard review

MSI X570-A PRO Motherboard review

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ModelBrandMSISeriesPROModelX570-A PRO
Supported CPUCPU Socket TypeAM4CPU TypeSupports 2nd and 3rd Gen AMD Ryzen / Ryzen with Radeon Vega Graphics and 2nd Gen AMD Ryzen with Radeon Graphics Desktop Processors for Socket AM4
ChipsetsChipsetAMD X570
MemoryNumber of Memory Slots4×288pinMemory Standard3rd Gen AMD Ryzen Processors support DDR4 4400/ 4266/ 4133/ 4000/ 3866/ 3733/ 3600/ 3466/ 3200/ 3066/ 3000/ 2933/ 2800/ 2667 MHz by A-XMP OC MODE, and 3200/ 3066/ 3000/ 2933/ 2800/ 2667/ 2400/ 2133/ 1866 MHz by JEDEC
2nd Gen AMD Ryzen Processors, 1st and 2nd Gen AMD Ryzen with Radeon Vega Graphics Processors support DDR4 3466/ 3200/ 3066/ 3000/ 2933/ 2800/ 2667 MHz by A-XMP OC MODE, and 3200/ 3066/ 3000/ 2933/ 2800/ 2667/ 2400/ 2133/ 1866 MHz by JEDECMaximum Memory Supported128GBChannel SupportedDual Channel
Expansion SlotsPCI Express 4.0 x161 x PCIe 4.0/3.0 x16 slot (PCIE_1)
- 3rd Gen AMD Ryzen support PCIe 4.0 x16 mode
- 2nd Gen AMD Ryzen support PCIe 3.0 x16 mode
- Ryzen with Radeon Vega Graphics and 2nd Gen AMD Ryzen with Radeon Graphics support PCIe 3.0 x8 mode
1 x PCIe 4.0/3.0 x16 slot (PCIE_3, supports x4 mode)PCI Express x13 x PCIe 3.0 x1 slots*
* The speeds may vary for different devices
Storage DevicesSATA 6Gb/s6 x SATA 6Gb/sM.22 x M.2 slot (Key M):
M2_1 slot (from AMD Processor)
Supports PCIe 4.0 x4 (3rd Gen AMD Ryzen)
Supports PCIe 3.0 x4 (2nd Gen AMD Ryzen / Ryzen with Radeon Vega Graphics and 2nd Gen AMD Ryzen with Radeon Graphics)
Supports 2242/2260/2280/22110 storage devices
M2_2 slot (from AMD X570 Chipset)
Supports PCIe 3.0 x4 and SATA 6Gb/s
Supports 2242/2260/2280 storage devices
Onboard VideoOnboard Video ChipsetSupported only by CPU with integrated graphic:

1 x HDMI 1.4 port, supports a maximum resolution of 4096x2160@24Hz

Only support when using Ryzen with Radeon Vega Graphics and 2nd Gen AMD Ryzen with Radeon Graphics Processors
Maximum shared memory of 2048MB
Onboard AudioAudio ChipsetRealtek ALC1220Audio Channels7.1-Channel High Definition Audio
Supports S/PDIF output
Onboard LANLAN ChipsetRealtek RTL8111HMax LAN Speed10/100/1000Mbps
Rear Panel PortsBack I/O Ports1 x Flash BIOS Button
1 x PS/2 keyboard/mouse combo port
2 x USB 2.0 ports
1 x HDMI port
4 x USB 3.2 Gen1 ports
1 x LAN (RJ45) port
1 x USB 3.2 Gen2 Type A port
1 x USB 3.2 Gen2 Type C port
5 x OFC audio jacks
1 x Optical S/PDIF OUT connector
Internal I/O ConnectorsOnboard USB2 x USB 2.0 connectors (supports additional 4 USB 2.0 ports)
2 x USB 3.2 Gen1 connectors (supports additional 4 USB 3.2 Gen1 ports)Other Connectors1 x 4-pin CPU fan connector
1 x 4-pin water-pump connector
4 x 4-pin system fan connectors
1 x Front panel audio connector
2 x System panel connectors
1 x TPM module connector
1 x Serial port connector
1 x Clear CMOS jumper
1 x Chassis Intrusion connector
2 x 4-pin RGB LED connectors
2 x 3-pin RAINBOW LED connectors
4 x EZ Debug LEDs
Physical SpecForm FactorATXLED LightingRGBDimensions (W x L)12.0" x 9.6"Power Pin1 x 24-pin ATX main power connector
1 x 8-pin ATX 12V power connector
1 x 4-pin ATX 12V power connector
FeaturesFeaturesMulti-GPU Support:
Supports 2-Way AMD CrossFire Technology

I/O Controller:
NUVOTON NCT6797 Controller Chip

Hardware Monitor:
CPU/System/Chipset temperature detection
CPU/System/Chipset fan speed detection
CPU/System/Chipset fan speed control

BIOS Features:
1 x 256MB flash
UEFI AMI BIOS
ACPI 6.1, SMBIOS 2.8
Multi-language

Special Features:
Audio
- Audio Boost 4
Storage
- Lightning Gen 4 M.2
- Twin M.2
Fan
- Pump Fan
- FROZR Heatsink Design
LED
- Mystic Light 3
- Mystic Light Extension (RGB)
- Mystic Light Extension (RAINBOW)
- Mystic light SYNC
- EZ DEBUG LED
Protection
- PCIe Steel Armor
- PCI-E Steel Slot
Performance
- Multi GPU-CrossFire Technology
- DDR4 Boost
- Core Boost
- GAME Boost
- USB with type A+C
- AMD Turbo USB 3.2 Gen 2
BIOS
- Click BIOS 5
- Flash BIOS

Dragon Center Features:
DRAGON OPTIMIZATION
OC Performance
Hardware Monitor
True Color
Mystic Light
Live Update

Software:
Drivers
DRAGON CENTER
Nahimic Audio
CPU-Z MSI GAMING
MSI App Player (BlueStacks)
Google Chrome, Google Toolbar, Google
Drive
Norton Internet Security Solution

today we're going to be taking a look at the MSI x5 70 a pro motherboard for the AMD risin processor now I'm building myself a new budget video editing PC and I decided to go with the risin 7-3 800 X and when I was looking for components I kept coming back to this board compared to the other ones out there and whilst it isn't a high-end gaming board and it doesn't have some of the features those boards have from a Productivity point of view for things like

video editing I think this board suits my needs perfectly so what I'm going to do in this review is give you guys an overview of this board take a close look at it and its features and at the end of the video I'm gonna give you an idea of what I think about it having built it and put it in the case and actually see how it performs on some benchmarks as well , now if you like what you see in this video please do subscribe to the channel there's a button in the bottom right

hand corner and by doing that you'll get updates on any future videos I release on doing this build especially if you're looking to build yourself an AMD based video editing PC but also other stuff that I do in the future as well right let's get on with it and the first thing we're gonna do is take a look at this board in depth the x5 78 Pro is one of the cheaper x5 70 base boards and is designed to be used with both the AMD risin 2000 and 3000 series CPUs the board is

based on the AMD AM for socket and uses an eight phase-- vrm now these are cooled by two separate he sinks one that reaches over the top of the port on the back and a second one along the top now whilst these are fairly large they are not linked by any heat pipes and whilst this is okay for say a standard application if it came to running this board in a high-end gaming

situation you could struggle to keep the temps under control memory wise this board supports up to 4 sticks of dual-channel ddr2 a maximum of 128 gig the board is fitted with two full-sized PCIe slots with the top main one being full metal armored it also has dual m2 slots with the top one being a 4 x 4 because of the x5 70 chipset and the second one being a 3 x 4 now the top slot is a full length whereas the bottom one is a slightly restricted length one due to one of the

smaller PCIe slots being in the way because this is an x5 70 board it does mean it has an active chipset cooler and this is located in the bottom right hand side now this isn't the largest cooler I've seen on a motherboard and it only actually supports the chipset and it doesn't do any cooling for the SSDs either now this does come with a small sticker over the top of it when you first get it that says play hard and stay silent and you need to make sure that you do remove

this before you put your board in your machine because it would stop the fan running the board is also fitted with three pcie 3.0 expansion slots for adding in any additional cards should you need them to power the board you have you standard 24-pin socket on the right hand side with two CPU power sockets located up in the top left corner 1/8 pin and 1/4 pin power output wise you have six PWM capable fan headers two of these are located at the top for CPU and

pump with an additional four accessory ones located along the bottom of the mainboard in the center alongside the onboard M two slots you have six serial ata slots for various drives as well and these do also have support for various raid modes for connecting to your case and external devices it has your standard front audio header 4 pin RGB LED header 2 USB 2.0 and 2 USB 3.0 headers a 3 pin rainbow LED header as well as a case intrusion header 2 and all of the usual ones such as your power button your reset button and LEDs looking at your external ports

along the back you have your flash bios button at the top with a ps2 port and two USB 2.0 type-a ports located below the bottom one of these 2 ports is your flash bios USB port as well next to this along the bottom you have a HDMI output USB 3.2 Gen 1 type a s next to that you have a USB 3 point to Gen 2 type a with a type c located below it then you have your LAN port with another two USB 3.0 Gen 1 port and then your main optical s/pdif out and audio ports located

as they usually are moving around to the rear of the board you can see that it is the usual high quality that you would expect from msi you find the CPU bracket mount on the rear of the board pre-fitted when you get it and you will also find various bits of labeling located around the back simply giving you is compliance and conformity there are also some markers telling you to be careful as well as some standoffs pre mounted onto the board ready just to make sure that nothing shorts out around the voltage area overall the board does have a very nice fit and

finish to it as you would expect from msi and it comes across as their usual quality now whilst this isn't aimed as a high-end gaming board it certainly isn't a cheap motherboard either coming in the UK now that is in the lower end of the price range for X 570 boards but he is still packed with features and it should cover most people's situations ideally I would have liked to have seen a bit more cooling especially around

the chipset and the m2 ports however that is what it is now you don't get a lot in the package with this one you simply get the board a couple of cables for your serial ata as well as a set of instructions and a CD but you're not gonna get a huge amount other than that in a board of this price now as I was doing this build on a budget I decided to go with the corsair carbide series spec delta RGB case this isn't the largest case in the world and it does come in a little bit

shorter than some of the others out there now for this build I decided to use the AMD Rison 3 800 X CPU alongside the Corsair Vengeance RGB program and I chose to go with 32 gig in total now overall the build went fairly straightforward although I did have a problem getting my CPU cooler in because of how short this case was but I will talk about that in my build video overall from the board point of view it went in without any issues and I had no problems

setting this one up whatsoever and here is how the build finally came out now I have to say I'm really pleased with this one in both performance as well as the way it looks now as I said this isn't the most expensive case in the world but it comes with this nice smoked front cover which allows you to see your LEDs as well as a nice tempered glass side panel now the build overall came out really nice especially with the mass amount of led that I ended up putting into this one between the RAM the coolers and the number of fans that I've got in this one overall I'm really

pleased with how the design turned out to give you an overview of the spec of this PC i'm using the AMD Rison 7/3 800 X and that is cooled by the corsair h 100 i RGB platinum edition of their cooler and that is a water cooler or an all-in-one water cooler i've got 32 gig of Corsair Vengeance RGB pro and these Samsung 512 gig 970 Evo + SSD the gigabyte geforce r-tx 2060 OC pro which is 6 gigabyte as well and obviously I'm using the MSI x5 70 a pro motherboard

as this video is about to give you guys just a quick overview of how this machine actually performs in Cinebench r20 and getting a single core score of 488 and a full multi-core score of 4 9 7 8 in pc mark 10 we're getting six nine seven four and in 3d mark times pi i'm getting eight one five four now comparing this to some of the others out there it is pretty much where it should be and whilst there are some slight variances depending on what graphics can't people are using the overall performance is right where i'd expect it to be and i myself am very very

pleased with how long some of the renders are taken to actually put out and the overall performance is very very good now I will do another review on this specifically just doing some render performance as well but that was just to take you over how it looked on some of the benchmarks overall that is pretty much it for this review now I haven't touched on the BIOS or the setup of the motherboard on this review with regards to software and I will actually do that in a nother one I do have to say that I've been using this machine for a couple of weeks and I

am very impressed with the board and its performance there are some quirks though and whilst the BIOS is feel easy to set up there is a few strange things with it as well the fact that it seems to be in half black and white and half color keeps leading me to think something is actually wrong but it isn't that is just the way it is and I'm also having a few issues with dragon center running in Windows as well and the sensor page seems to stop working and you can't

actually bring it up to be able to see the temps and the fan speeds however that really isn't related to the motherboard itself and it's more to do with the software overall it's been absolutely solid I've had no stability problems whatsoever and I have spent a little bit of time configuring all of the fan options and I will look at that as I said in that other review it has given me a whole wealth of controls of available as well and I've been able to get everything set upand tuned just the way .

MSI X570-A PRO Motherboard review

taking a look at MSI budget offering on the x5 70 chipset the ex-wife 70 - a pro get what soon find out more so today we're going to take a look at the budget end of the X 570 range now at the moment this particular model the MSI x5 70 - a pro is the cheapest x5 17 motherboard you can buy on the market at least in the UK anyway I will put affiliate links in the description below so you can check out the local pricing but I'm pretty sure wherever you look this one is going to be pretty much at the bottom end of the market there's various reasons for that but

there's also reasons why you should definitely consider it now as you know on Mike's unboxing we do like to favour the budget orientated bills and this comes in a perfect price at the moment this price as of April 2020 but sit just slightly there than some of the higher-end offerings on the B 450 chips at range but you get pretty much most of the features plus you get the gen for support for PCI Express so lots of features lots of things going for it you've probably seen reviews already where this board actually does suffer quite badly

with its vrm cooling solution and the power of its V RMS for that matter but rest assured unless you're going to be overclocking on the liquid nitrogen or just trying to push crazy clocks on your 3950 X this board is going to be absolutely fine for pretty much all setups ideally I would suggest obviously it is a relatively low end board for the particular chipset so the kind of perfect sweet spot is like you've Rison 5 3600 and there abouts which this board makes a lot of sense for

so let's take a look at the packaging and then we'll go through the unboxing process and then we'll give you a tour of the board and then my final thoughts at the end of the video ok so to start with very plain packaging pretty much the usual msi deal says well is ex-wife 70 - a pro it's got support for md Roizen processors it also supports obviously the latest 3000 series which this chipset was designed for as it says on the box it supports PCI Express gen 4.0 and has AMD store mi technology built in move around to the side of the box occassions a little bit detailed

supported or unsupported processors so this doesn't support the a series a flan processors neither does it support the aplans with Rajon Vega graphics but for all the other ones like like the 3000 G that kind of thing 32 hundreds no problem at all so if you're using either a second or third gem Roizen even first generations are absolutely fine things like your 1700 X the risin 5 1600 AF absolutely perfect for this board moving right on to the packet goes into some detail

about the individual specification so again one of the highlights of the chipset is the gem for PCI Express and the m dot 2's you also got optimized for multi-gpu so if you're using a crossfire which I probably doubt you are but potentially you could use that if you wanted to it's got audio boost for and this has the realtek LC 1220 chipset which is a slightly up rated chipset from what we're used to seeing on some of these budget boards so really good same solution this also supports ddr4 boost so it does take it a little bit higher than the rated specifications for

ddr4 so you can get up to four thousand four hundred megahertz on overclocks so with all the really inexpensive higher megahertz Ram on the market at the moment you can certainly take advantage of that but if you're on a lower budget and you've maybe got some old DDR 2133 line around you can still use it on here without any issues it goes thing to say more about core boost which is a little bit of a mute point because of a precision boost overclocking and also the

situation with the V RMS potentially it's not quite as good as they're making it on the box but still perfectly functional just overclocking is something we really do need to be considerate of one nice feature which actually does stand out above the crowd is for the heating for the chipset and the chips are heating actually does have a fan on it which is the froze our design and actually supports zero fan as well so if the fan doesn't need to spin because the chips that's nice and cool in your lightly air-cooled chassis then the fan will actually stop which is quite a rarity

these days as most ex-wife 70 chipset based bores the fans spin continually so that is a nice feature yeah boss America just to give you an overview of the i/o which actually is a pretty decent for a spec but we'll take a closer look at that when we give you a tour of the board okay so the unboxing process now to get this straight away I'll pick this up from CCO in the UK which is a pretty decent computer components supplier and manufacturer distributor etc I did pick this up cheaper than the regular retail price because it was an open box model and as it

turns out there's two things missing from this particular one one of which is the installation manual and the other is the pair of SATA connectors so obviously if you're buying this brand new you will get an installation manual and you'll get the SATA connectors but I did get a pretty drastic reduction from not having those included so another great saving so in the box we get the motherboard which we'll take a look at in a little while we get the i/o backplate which as you can see is been opened before again this was an open box model we get our MSI

gaming leaflet the MSI true gaming badge a thank you for purchasing a MSI product the MSI installation DVD with drivers etc we get a quick installation guide information about the case standoff locations and a pair of MDOT two retaining screws ok so let's take a tour of the board itself so start off on the top left hand corner we've got our 8 pin and additional 4 pin power supply connectors for CPU additional power now most people do ask the same thing do I need

the 4 pin as well the easy answer is realistically no the motherboard will deliver up to 300 watts of power through the 8 pin connector so unless you're really overclocking on liquid nitrogen which obviously we're not going to do on this board it's very unlikely you need that extra 4 pin connector although if you are using a slightly lower end power supply and you have that extra 4 pin connector then feel free to use it but it isn't required moving further across we've got this heatsink at the top which matches up mostly with the heatsink on this side this is part of the

problem that I see with this particular board is the heatsink itself it's quite weighty and is quite large but unfortunately it doesn't have any real vents in it so the surface area is limited it's not particularly great for cooling this is one of the things which I will be looking at addressing hopefully in future reviews so if you want to see how that goes click on the subscribe icon and the China icon and you'll be notified of a future of video releases but certainly I believe that to be

one of these or problem areas again with this board the VR aims aren't great and they do underperform compared to some of the more expensive competition but realistically adding a 120 mil fan or having some decent airflow around this area price of an extra fan whereas the next board up with very good vrm quality so take that into consideration move along at the top here we've got a CPU fan header which is a four pin now all of the CPU fan headers and also the regular fan headers will

support also sensing so whether using a DC fan or a pwm fan or even a water pump you can adjust those very easily both in the BIOS and also in the MSI dragon software moving along we've got a 12 volt RGB connector and next that we've got a three pin 5 volt addressable RGB connector so if you've got some kind of RGB stuff going on nice and easy places to connect up there on this far side we've got a pump fan header is labeled again as pump fan but you can change that and use it as pretty much any type of fan that you want in the boss and in the

software we've got four slots for ddr4 ram this supports up to 128 gigs of ram which should be more than enough for now and a couple of years into the future over the four slots you can install 32 gigs in each again 128 gigs total and like we said earlier memory speeds supported actually from the lowly 1866 megahertz right the way up to a whopping four thousand four hundred megahertz in overclock mode that may well change to higher frequencies as BIOS updates become available moving then we've got our four debug LEDs so if you're building a

system and you're not booting for some reason you can look out the debug LEDs and see where the issue is whether it be motherboard processor graphics RAM et cetera those are very helpful especially for novices or even for experienced system builders who are struggling to get the machine to post moving down we've got a 24 pin power connector which is pretty much where we'd expect to see it we've now got 6 SATA connectors also 14 6 gigabit per second and also

there is the first of our USB 3.0 front panel connectors moving across slightly we've got our a m4 socket which again as we said supports the majority of AMD processors the very low end processors are not included in the boss and are not supported but realistically you wouldn't be pairing those sorts with this type of motherboard anyway but for support as it stands at the moment up to 39 50 X this board will take all the current rise ins threes five sevens and nines move we've got ultra Jen for supporting PCI Express so if we were nvme drives or you can if

you want so you can install a satyr based MDOT to drive in this selection here there is a thumb screw already attached to the board whether or not yours will come attached already I'm not too sure like I said this is a open box model so that may have been putting already but these are nice and easy to do and they're literally on thumb screw so it makes installation pretty easy if you don't have a hex wrench moving down we've got our gem four PCI Express connector

again this will support backwards compatibility for PCI Express gen3 but if you've got a gem for supported graphics card theoretically you can get more bandwidth through it move them down a little bit more we've got the first of our PCI Express x one slots and then we've got another x 16 slot although is wired electrically 4 x 8 and then there's another additional 2 PCI Express x 1 ports moving back across we've got our msi heatsink across the chipset and there is a sticker on there to remove so make sure you remove that before you actually try using the

motherboard like I said it's got this fraser fan on there which supports 0 RPM so if you do need it to be super quiet it will be quite under low loads saying that even under full RPMs the fan is known to be very very quiet and no lighter than any of the other components or fans on the system moving down to the bottom of the board we've got another one of our j rainbow connectors or to you and me that is a 5 volt addressable RGB connector there's also your front I Oh connectors so hard drive activity power button reset all those kinds of things can be

plugged into there there's also an additional USB 3.0 front panel connector and next to that we've got a USB 2 port and another USB 2 port so you can add on an additional four USB to ports on the back of the case should you have cases supports it or maybe you've got like a card reader built into your case you can plug those into there quite easily just about there we've got some of our chassis intrusion connections reset for CMOS that kind of thing there's an additional PCI Express gen3 nvme or SATA drive connection there so again if you want to add

another MDOT to star drive you can do that from there that is only Gen 3 maximum supported whereas the top one is Gen 4 next up we've got our comm port action which probably you will never ever use and then the weird thing which we've got here is we've got four PWM style fan headers all in a row which King depending on your system setup may be beneficial it may not be personally I would have liked to have seen maybe two down here and an additional one in

this corner that is the one time so I can see if this board there isn't a chassis phone connector over in this particular area so if you've got a 120mm fan in the rear you are gonna have to run the cable down motherboard and into this section which again potentially could be problematic for some but certainly not deal-breaker moving on we've got our TPM port or trusted platform module so if you're using one those you can plug it into this bottom section then next slide is another 12 volt RGB connector for normal RGB and last one along the end there is our front

audio connector which is the HD audio so to plug in your front panel connections you can do it plug it into there all of the audio section is on a kind of separate layer to keep it isolated and to reduce noise and Static as much as is possible we've lined to the rear i/o on the board we've got a pretty decent setup here actually especially considering this is what is effectively a budget X 570 chipset we've got our BIOS flash back button now this is absolutely brilliant so if and when

MD released new processors which aren't currently supported on your motherboard BIOS you can quite easily put the boss onto a USB stick put it into this bottom port and press and hold deep bass button and you can flash your BIOS to the current version the game this will add features such as increased memory support reliability options and AGC updates as well so we've got two USB 2.0 ports there along with a combo ps2 port for keyboard or Mouse we've got an HDMI output there so that is again another slight name sorry we don't have DVI or

VGA on this board although I think most people now would probably be using HDMI port Shane not to see a display port on here but again ex-wife 70 chipset is highly likely you'll be using a graphics card so the ports will be available on that so we've got two USB 3.0 ports next time we've got our USB 3.2 gem one type a and type C ports really nice to see a type C port on this board next up we've got our LAN port so the LAN port supports gigabit internet speeds and 10100 should you want to use it you've also got another a pair of USB 3.1 ports moving

then we've got our audio connections so we've got five audio ports on the 3.5 million I can phones all that kind of stuff it counts for up to seven point one serene systems and also you've got an optic light as well so if you want to connect it to a home theater setup you can do quite easily so there we go that is the MSI x58 Pro I've got bonus - I'm really impressed with it for the price it does offer a fantastic value for money yes the V RMS are not the best and quite easy they possibly are the worst of the ex-wife 70 chipsets but realistically what are you going to be

using on this board if you're going to be used in a Verizon five or even a moderate Rosen seven you've got no issues whatsoever as you get into the realms of the roy's and nines maybe you should be looking at a higher-end board especially if you're considering some hard core overclock in as we know most of the Rison 3000 series the overclock in doesn't always get much further than the precision boost overclocks anyway so unless you're actually experienced and

know how to squeeze all that performance I have the processor do you really need those higher-end boards for me personally no I'm going to be pairing this with either a Verizon 7700 X or maybe a Verizon 530 604 that it's going to be absolutely fine even if I put a Verizon 939 50 X in there it's gonna kick with it absolutely fine with just precision boost overclocking generally the issue with this in a lot of the reviews is where they've used it on an open test bench we have zero airflow just using the board as is with a collisional airflow this board is going to be absolutely

fine the game we possibly will be taking a look at the vrm setup to see if we can increase the performance of the actual heat sinks although do you really need to is overclock in on a lower M port that important to you most people I think you will be buying this board are going to be going more for the flexibility of your PCI Express gem for your increased memory speeds and also the ability to use the latest and greatest poison processors without having to flash the BIOS

so let me know what you think of this board in the comment section below personally I think it's a winner but we will be installing this into a system soon and doing some further investigation on how it actually performs and hopefully it does pretty good .